# Substitute short TMV for EDV, TLT, TMF?

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Substitute short TMV for EDV, TLT, TMF? 2017-03-03T15:29:55+00:00
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• STEPHEN
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My portfolio positions include EDV, TLT, and TMF. What is the conversion equation to convert them all to one position of short TMV? Or is that even recommended?

For example, my portfolio is:

SHY = 15%
ZIV = 20%
JNK = 24%
SPXL = 3%
TMF = 2%
TLT = 16%
EDV = 20%

Should I replace TMF, TLT, and EDV with one positon of short TMV?

• Frank Grossmann
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I would convert all to TMF or TLT
EDV/2=TMF (so it is 10%TMF)
TLT/3=TMF (so it is 5% TMF)
so 17% TMF all together

if you want to convert in TLT
TMF*3=TLT
EDV*1.5=TLT

• STEPHEN
Member
Post count: 22

Thank you. Maybe this option can be added to the Consolidated Signals and Shares worksheet.

Participant
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I thought performance wise short TMV was supposed to be better than long TMF or TLT???

• Alexander Horn
Keymaster
Post count: 366

Yes, we’re working to have all variations ready on the consolidation sheet for the May signals. Takes a bit of time for all the 3x/-3x and simple short options of MYRS, UIS, etc.

• Ben Andersen
Participant
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But at what cost is it no longer worth it to short the 3 times inverse ETFs? My broker have a “hard to borrow fee” of 2% on TMF – and then the margin rate is added to that – so can fast become 5% or even 10%/year depending on peoples margin rates. Same applies for SPXS (not sure what hard to borrow fee would be there) and other leveraged ETFs. Cheers!

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